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i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky. it was pretty substantive. >> the b.s. wonk. >> what's that? >> b.s. wonk. >> mitt romney was floating policies out there -- >> united states has the best health outcomes in the world? >> it was not -- that's it, it was not a lot of one-liners and zingers. >> a couple of good one-liners. people forgot. i've been in business for 25 years, i have no idea what you're talking about, that's pretty good. >> i need to consult with my accountant is
i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come...
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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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mitt romney had 22 bites at this apple before coming to that podium last night. so is this a case of practice really is critical even if you're an eloquent public speaker like the president is? >> right. practice is very important. whether you're a tennis player or a celloist, you got to practice. if you want to be a good debater you have to practice. clearly the sessions the president had with john kerry filling in for mitt romney and his advisers they didn't serve the president well clearly because he wasn't ready for that debate last night. as i was watching it like anyone else watching it, i was saying to myself why isn't he going on the offensive? i moderated four obama debates in the last cycle four years ago including one-on-one debate at the kodak theater with hillary clinton and barack obama, one of their last debates before he won the democratic presidential nomination. you know, he wasn't a fabulous debater but he was solid and when he had to he went after her and went after john edwards and the other democratic candidates but over the past four years
mitt romney had 22 bites at this apple before coming to that podium last night. so is this a case of practice really is critical even if you're an eloquent public speaker like the president is? >> right. practice is very important. whether you're a tennis player or a celloist, you got to practice. if you want to be a good debater you have to practice. clearly the sessions the president had with john kerry filling in for mitt romney and his advisers they didn't serve the president well...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get away with the actual debate. it wasn't too funny. and i said it would cause him problems. >> no doubt, maitt romney was a his best tonight but it's not good enough. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals, to what he has said, to what he's represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articulate series of lies tonight? there's been so much focus on the president's debate performance but i continue to believe that governor romney did serious damage to his candidacy that n
and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get...
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what do you say to mitt romney? >> well, first of all, i do think the start of the presidential campaign in some ways started with the debate the other night. i think only partisans watch the convention. a lot of the real undecided voters started to tune in. he had a good night, he can build on that. i think what he has to do, though, is not just become the biggest critic of the president. i think other people can do that effectively. he has to start showing his vision and how to give hope to people of why america is going to be better under mitt romney and also let them see him personally. get to know him and see that he's actually a pretty darn likeable guy once you get to know him. >> can he win from here, do you think, john? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, we have already seen some of the polls that came out today since the debates show a great tightening. we have also seen there's been a big influx of money for mitt romney which will for the first time put him on an even parity with obama on advertising, and like i
what do you say to mitt romney? >> well, first of all, i do think the start of the presidential campaign in some ways started with the debate the other night. i think only partisans watch the convention. a lot of the real undecided voters started to tune in. he had a good night, he can build on that. i think what he has to do, though, is not just become the biggest critic of the president. i think other people can do that effectively. he has to start showing his vision and how to give...
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what mitt romney did not win last night is next in the rewrite. add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> at this very minute. the news minute on tv and online the news media were flooding you with information about who won the debate. i used to be one of those guys. i knew for sure that john kerry won all three of his debates against george bush. but of course he didn't. this is a good time to think about what it means to win a debate. in high school and college debates there are judges to decide which debaters who actually won. those debates have real winners. winners who get real trophies. no one got a trophy but plenty of people guessed at who would have gotten a trophy. the question is they were debating for votes and those votes wouldn't be counted until next month. so all of the winner talk you have withbeen hearing is just guessing and all of the guessers have been wrong before. my guess is about who won debates have been wrong man
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because mitt romney seemed to be very much on his game last night. i want to play one sound bite where he really laid out the issues in this economy in a very clear way. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. and the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. craft a plan at the state level that fits the needs of the state, and then let's focus on getting the costs down for people. >> ana, over time, you have been no giant fan of mitt romney's campaign style. yet you seemed to see a different mitt romney last night. >> oh, i absolutely do. and i hope this is the mitt romney that continues showing up between now and november 6th. the mitt romney that showed up last night, john, was alive and kicking. whereas, you know, president obama was rip van winkel. wake me u
because mitt romney seemed to be very much on his game last night. i want to play one sound bite where he really laid out the issues in this economy in a very clear way. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. and the...
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mitt romney tried to run away from the plan last night. we'll make sure americans across the country understand exactly what it is. there was an exchange on education. the president's doubled funding for college scholarships. mitt romney cut back in the area both in massachusetts and would cut funding for education by 20% currently, yet mitt romney stood on the stage and praised teachers last night when he in the past said we don't need anymore teachers and opposed president's legislation to put them back in the classroom. we'll hold him accountable for specifics he didn't share last night. jon: he pointed out that massachusetts was number one state in educational performance. there is that. i want to do what we -- >> fees at massachusetts universities skyrocketed. jon: i want to do what we did for governor sununu as well. the same poll asked voters, viewers, about president obama's performance. did barack obama do a better or worse job than expected? 21% said he did a better job. 61% said he did worse than they expected. why do you think
mitt romney tried to run away from the plan last night. we'll make sure americans across the country understand exactly what it is. there was an exchange on education. the president's doubled funding for college scholarships. mitt romney cut back in the area both in massachusetts and would cut funding for education by 20% currently, yet mitt romney stood on the stage and praised teachers last night when he in the past said we don't need anymore teachers and opposed president's legislation to...
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called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for president meant. >> yeah. so are you -- i mean, there was a multi -- there were millions of people watching last night. over 60 million people watching. it was the biggest watch debate since 1980. are you worried people will believe mitt romney's lies if they're not countered in debates? >> ed, it's not as if these people are just tuning in right now. you know, this race has been going on for some time. they -- you know, they know that mitt romney has been campaigning for the last two years on a $5 trillion tax cut. that's the only piece of his economic policy. that's what he points to when h
called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for president meant. >> yeah. so are you -- i...
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because the other thing about romney last night is he came across as incredibly smart. this is a guy who clearly knows better. this is a guy who is clearly shading the truth because he can. not because he's ignorant or somehow doesn't quite grasp his own policies like we might have thought george w. bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not turn to him and say if you do not plan to add a $5 trillion revenue loss what loopholes will you close? give us the broad brush outlines because without that, you don't have credibility. it would have seemed to me to be the appropriate response. >> absolutely. he could have just kept pressing him and i -- before the debate, my whole view was the president needs to spend little bit of time on defense and then just go on the offense. because mitt romney is so vulnerable to attacks not only on his current policies but on his previous policies and in being a flip-flopper and certainly his time
because the other thing about romney last night is he came across as incredibly smart. this is a guy who clearly knows better. this is a guy who is clearly shading the truth because he can. not because he's ignorant or somehow doesn't quite grasp his own policies like we might have thought george w. bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not...
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governor mitt romney was the decisive winner in last night's presidential debate. in just a moment, i will be joined for an exclusive interview by both governor romney and his runningmate, congressman paul ryan. even the most left-wing observers have conceded that their candzidate bombed without his teleprompter last night. obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >> again and again and again, he told the story to the american people that is completely... in contrast with what he said before and unfounded in fact. and that's going to catch up with him. i give him credit for strong performance. i give him an "f" for being honest with the american people. >> sean: for 90 minutes, president obama lied about his record and president obama lied about what he would do in a second term. you want proof? here it is. >> if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth, the truth. >> the fact check. >> this claim is based on a fiscal fic
governor mitt romney was the decisive winner in last night's presidential debate. in just a moment, i will be joined for an exclusive interview by both governor romney and his runningmate, congressman paul ryan. even the most left-wing observers have conceded that their candzidate bombed without his teleprompter last night. obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >>...
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with fox news last night romney had a different explanation. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's completely wrong. >> both candidates campaign in battleground states today. romney work to capitalize on a strong debate, the president working to regroup. susan mcginnis covering it all in washington this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: back on the campaign trail mitt romney is trying to prolong the momentum that he got from that debate, president obama is seemed determined to make up for lost ground. romney's solid debate performance gave him a new spark on the. campaign trail. before an estimated 10,000 people in virginia he kept up his attacks on the president. >> what you didn't hear last night from the president why it is the next four years will be better than the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back
with fox news last night romney had a different explanation. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's completely wrong. >> both candidates campaign in battleground states today. romney work to capitalize on a strong debate, the president working to regroup. susan mcginnis covering it all in washington this morning. susan,...
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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big. >> steve: you're making it sound quite historic. in fact, "wall street journal" says this is the best debate effort by a republican nominee since reagan back in 1980, which would have been 32 years from now. do you think this is going to move the polls, move the meter? >> that's the big question. if you're asking me to guess, and that's all i'm doing this morning, i would say it will move the needle. i have no idea how much. is it a point or two or is it a bunch much points? we're all going to find out in the next wave of polls. i think everybody i
how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big....
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romney didn't need me last night. i have seen some of the highlights and i was pretty impressed with his performance. >> we heard dan lothian talking about the white house spin. they said, it's not going to shift the race dramatically. do you agree that sort of one-night performance in a debate, to play it up as being a game changer is not correct? >> well about 90 to 95% of americans have decided, there's about 5% less, so nothing really changes dramatically. so you're trying to shift the 4, 5, 6, 7% of the vote that might shift at this point. i think most everybody else is pretty much going to set on where they're going to do. so you are shooting for a small amount of people, some in the middle. but interestingly, people are always talking about the middle, there are people on both extremes. when ralph nader takes votes, libertarians take votes. they need to be worried about people on either side of the spectrum as well. it's still a pretty small number. >> senator, i watch you every day on capitol hill trying to ge
romney didn't need me last night. i have seen some of the highlights and i was pretty impressed with his performance. >> we heard dan lothian talking about the white house spin. they said, it's not going to shift the race dramatically. do you agree that sort of one-night performance in a debate, to play it up as being a game changer is not correct? >> well about 90 to 95% of americans have decided, there's about 5% less, so nothing really changes dramatically. so you're trying to...
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mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president who don't plan to do so again. i'm like many americans who were democrat at one point who moved away from the democratic party. the democratic party ideas. part of it is policy. part of it is ideology and part of it is results. last night was a debate about result. what was telling to me. at no point did president obama lay out a case for what a second term is going to look like. i heard president obama say he was going to do one thing in his second term. he's going to raise some taxes in the second term that he didn't get around to raising in th
mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president...
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>> well, "saturday night live" was great. >> it's monday. you're late. >> pretty good booking, big bird. mitt romney wants to shut down pbs. big bird. it was pretty nice. the big thing was they got to the bottom of why president obama maybe did poorly. >> really? >> it had something to do with the fact that he forgot a wedding anniversary gift. >> really? actually, never. i haven't. i personally have not forgotten any wedding anniversary gifts. >> unfortunately guys are not perfect. we're imperfect animals. >> so what happened during "saturday night live"? >> let's look at the clip. >> yeah. the anniversary gift. i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i have the secret service directing me while i hit the hotel gift shop for an anniversary gift. a denver broncos sweatshirt. the hotel had nice bath clothes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president -- >> i'm sorry. yeah. yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden
>> well, "saturday night live" was great. >> it's monday. you're late. >> pretty good booking, big bird. mitt romney wants to shut down pbs. big bird. it was pretty nice. the big thing was they got to the bottom of why president obama maybe did poorly. >> really? >> it had something to do with the fact that he forgot a wedding anniversary gift. >> really? actually, never. i haven't. i personally have not forgotten any wedding anniversary gifts....
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wednesday night's face to face showdown between mitt romney and president obama. will it be the game changer that romney desperately needs? plus you've seen him in those bain commercials bashing mitt romney in the battle ground states. they've been spoofed on "saturday night live" now the workers have hitting the campaign trail. they are the new gop campaign ad rock stars. how they're using babies just like that in the ads to woo women. a lot more coming up in the 11:00 a.m. hour of me being a married man. see you in a second. e imperfects living in a beautifully imperfect world. it's amazing we've made it this far. maybe it's because when one of us messes up, someone else comes along to help out. that's the thing about humans. when things are at their worst, we're at our best. see how at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unite
wednesday night's face to face showdown between mitt romney and president obama. will it be the game changer that romney desperately needs? plus you've seen him in those bain commercials bashing mitt romney in the battle ground states. they've been spoofed on "saturday night live" now the workers have hitting the campaign trail. they are the new gop campaign ad rock stars. how they're using babies just like that in the ads to woo women. a lot more coming up in the 11:00 a.m. hour of...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the kids' college tuition. [ cellphone ringing ] but life insurance? [ horn honking ] life is unpredictable. that's why at fidelity life we want you to think about term life insurance -- taking care of your family's future expenses if something happens to you. it's easy. we get to know you and your needs, then give you our best quote and our competitors'. you choose and save up to 70%. that could mean $250,000 of coverage for just $15 a month. we offer plans with no medical exam, and we've been in business for over 100 years. call fidelity life. ♪ or visit fideli
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the...
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they had just about given up on romney before last night. they needed -- they really needed romney to do well last night. otherwise, they would have just folded their tent. unfortunately, they got the boost last night that they needed. because romney did breathe new life into the campaign. now for the next week, right it's going to be oh, my god, oh, my god, we gotta bounce now. we didn't get a bounce out of paul ryan or tampa but now yeah romney proved he's up to the task. he showed that he's capable of holding his own against president obama and this is going to re-energize the republicans. just when we had them down for the count we let them back up. off the canvas. should never have done it. should never have let it happened. all right. more calls coming up and we'll talk to reporter from the hill, niles standage in the next segment here of the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >>and now to my point. that is a whole bunch of bunk! the powerful my steal an election but they cannot steal democracy. (vo) cenk
they had just about given up on romney before last night. they needed -- they really needed romney to do well last night. otherwise, they would have just folded their tent. unfortunately, they got the boost last night that they needed. because romney did breathe new life into the campaign. now for the next week, right it's going to be oh, my god, oh, my god, we gotta bounce now. we didn't get a bounce out of paul ryan or tampa but now yeah romney proved he's up to the task. he showed that he's...